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TotalDiscord wrote: Allofyou wrote: Minershrub wrote: Things noobs do:

Spamming a protecting move besides Kings shield/Spiky Shield without poisoning/leach seeding/burning your opponent

Valuing speed more than any other stat (Magikarp and Zubat give speed EVs for a reason)

Using a rock type other than archen

Literally having ONE TYPE OF MOVE on a pokemon1 1. Not always, Protect + Leftovers set is possible on some pokes such as Suicune. 2. Speed is more important on many mons (Like Crobat and Mega Lopunny)

3. Best rock type available is Tyranitar

4, Mono-attacking Clefable and Suicune is an actual set.

Still a good list though :). Mono Fable Dies to heatran. Mono Suicune does not enjoy a hello from water absorb.

Best rock is Mega Dactyl.

Valuing speed over everything else is bad, because when it cant survive that OHKO without extra HP investment..... And they want speed.....

Protect Lefties is only worth it, on Walrein when it's snowing with leftovers and ingrain, aqua ring, and leech seed baton passed by smeargle. Then you can use protect.

Erm... Let me calculate that... 6% + 6% +12% + 6% + 6%.....

36% Per turn. Snap. Clef is not supposed to beat Heatran anyway. It is a perfect counter. Also "switching" is available. Role compressing can reduce the effeciveness of each mons. Like Suicune should not stay in water absorb mons anyway.

Mega Lopunny normally uses 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Speed with Jolly nature. It is not supposed to tank a hit. It is used as a revenge killer. That's why speed is more important. The same goes with Crobat. Top 20 ranking players use this spread for a reason.

Protect Leftovers is on Suicune bc of pressure PP stalling (which is boring). But it is never worth it anyway. Smeargle is unavailable now so yeah.