Board Thread:Pokémon Help/@comment-31398341-20170703145512/@comment-31398341-20171103144751

Jerdeboi wrote: OVERATED: Shell smash cloyster



-Has to carry focus sash

-Very weak defenceivley (Sorry on Spelling)

-Once set up, Roar and whirlwind end its buffs

-Easily killed by Priority

UNDERATED: Skill link toucannon



+Can carry item

+Does not have to set up with any buffs

+Can use roost as a viable recovery

+Can learn Anti fighting moves (Ex Beak Blast) Look at the meta and more than 80% of Pokemon can beat Toucannon easily.

Round 1 : VS Mega Gengar : 6.3% to win before Mega Gengar 2HKOs it

Round 2 : VS Mega Lucario : Lose

Round 3 : VS Marshadow : Lose

Round 4 : VS Lugia : RIP

Round 5 : VS Mega Salamence : Lose

Round 6 : VS Shaymin Sky : 40% Chance to win. 60% Flinch rate makes it lose most of the time

Round 7 : VS Chansey : Lose, Chansey can Toxic stall and fully recovers every damage

Round 8 : VS Blaziken : Lose

Round 9 : VS Clefable : Lose

Round 10 : VS Mega Charizard X : Lose

Round 11 : VS Mega Charizard Y : Lose

For Cloyster :

Round 1 : VS Mega Gengar : Focus Sash set can win 70%, 30% lose chance due to poison

Round 2 : VS Mega Lucario : RIP

Round 3 : VS Marshadow : Lose unless setup already

Round 4 : VS Lugia : Lose

Round 5 : VS Mega Salamence : Win

Round 6 : VS Shaymin Sky : Win

Round 7 : VS Chansey : Win

Round 8 : VS Blaziken : Lose unless learns Hydro Pump

Round 9 : VS Clefable : Lose unless setup already

Round 10 : VS Mega Charizard X : Win

Round 11 : VS Mega Charizard Y : Can win with Icicle Spear + Ice Shard combo. Easily win with setup.

Cloyster can be overrated, but Toucannon is definitely not underrated.