Board Thread:Pokémon Help/@comment-32228622-20170614153355/@comment-30155146-20170619045356

I think you guys are arguing two very different arguments.

Discord is purely going on how easy it is to win and Jinx is going on how healthy it is for competitive play.

I will quite litterally repeat what I said earlier.

The reason why "Ubers" is an insult isn't because their weak, its because they are too 'easy to use. This is what Jinx means by meta trash.'

Mega Gengar really only needs to be brought into something it can KO, with it's offensive typing and speed, that should be litterally "anything under it's speed tier": once it's job is done, just DBond and you instantly have a mon of your choosing removed, along with a mon that would have countered gengar, AT WORST, down.

Mega Steelix requires a lot more support to use effectively, maintaining sand and insuring that your opponent doesn't have any special coverage up his sleeve. Admittedly, even with maximum skill, it's less effective - but if you want to vary your strategy, it's a unique choice.