Board Thread:Pokémon Help/@comment-31398341-20171026040947/@comment-27535813-20180320054054

lol y'all talking about evasion and stuff and that it's hard to counter...

well the truth is:

'''IT'S ACTUALLY DUMB! stop trying to defend it, evasion is a SUPERBLY ANNOYING(and makes me want to tear my hair out) and it doesn't help it any better when RNG is forced to come into play just because 'you can't hit'.'''

for the purpose of the thread, if we were to include evasion as one of the strats, then the entire thread is pointless because every pokemon has some chance to win just because they spammed minimise/doubleteam/some evasion move.

'''DON'T EVEN THINK OF SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT MOVES THAT CANNOT MISS, MOST OF THEM ARE LIMITED IN USAGE. LOOK AT Z-MOVES, they can only be used once and only 1 pokemon can carry it, hell z-moves aren't even used to bypass accuracy checks, it's to wall-break! LOOK AT MOVES LIKE SWIFT AND MAGICAL LEAF, no one ever uses them. LOOK AT MOVES THAT BECOME STRONGER AND BYPASS ACCURACY CHECKS AGAINST MINIMISE, moves like Body Slam, Flying Press and Steamroller... do you see them often? Much less especially when the only viable Pokemon are little, or they don't even use these moves in the first place... LOOK AT BLIZZARD, HURRICANE AND THUNDER, first of all, they have shaky accuracy aside of weather conditions or ability like No Guard(which i mean, only Mega Pidgeot would actually be viable). no one's going to purposely run weather teams just because "i want to counter evasion with these moves". LOOK AT NO GUARD, LOCK-ON, MIND READER AND TELEKINESIS, no guard is self-explanatory and obviously limited, the rest of the 3 are moves that NO ONE is going to add into their moveset... seriously why?'''

tl;dr: stop justifying the usage of evasion, it's annoying, it's dumb, and it's painful to deal with one. yes it can be stopped, but no one is going to purposely carry moves or have a team specifically deal with evasion. so for the sake of this thread, please keep in mind that we're not suggesting to spam sleep status on every pokemon and win the game, or spam evasion moves just so that you're never ever able to be hit and win the game because u can dodge every single move that comes in your way. we should have clauses here otherwise the ranking and viability of pokemon wouldn't come into question, it'd just be a game of "lol who sets up evasion first" or "who spams spore on every pokemon first".

ok im done pls put clauses in the main post to remind everyone that we're not recommending sleep spam and evasion spam, yes i know that the key word is 'recommending', we can't force everyone to not create a double team greninja or something.